So to answer the last question with a different twist, you should check out CA 3Tera AppLogic. It is a Xen and VMWare Dual HyperVisor Grid/Cloud OS that does interconnects between applications and VMs far far far better than VMWare has even been able to.
No thank you About a week ago I had the misfortune for my router to die on me, so I think the "cloud" would not be a good idea for me for a start It took my isp 2 weeks to resolve the problem, even after I told them I knew what I was doing' and they use an encripted router, so anyother dint work >.< There is no way I would use the "cloud" for an other simple reason,security Aye as simple as that,the stuff igo on my computer is as safe as I can get it, but can you trust the "cloud" No thanks mate I stay here on terra firma
Completely agree with your point of view. Cloud would be great 6 years ago, with even low-price PCs today having excess power for pretty much anything except gaming, it is just a corporate struggle thing.
But I know plenty of people for whom a corporation would be more trustworthy about handling their personal information than they are themselves. I'm specifically talking about the several people I know who have the Ethernet cable from their cable modem plugged directly into their computer with nothing between them and the internet but false hope.
I showed up at my in-laws house a couple of days after some cable guy had shown up at their house and "installed the internet" for them and found it set up just that way. My in-laws did not know any better and just knew that they could now browse the internet at high speed. I brought them an old router i had in my closet and did some basic configuration for them to at least keep them from being wide open to the world.
So there are a lot of people out there where a cloud service could very well be more secure than their own system.
Speaking from a corporate perspective I find it somewhat laughable that one of IT's biggest productivity headaches is users spending all day on FaceBook and Yahoo / Gmail, but when it comes to actually moving our business to the 'Cloud' our hackles suddenly go up.
Corporate IT departments began to slim down in the early part of this decade, but the past few years have suddenly began to bloat again. Fat client desktop demand has stalled, and most of the time we spend running fixing smartphones which run better hooked to the 'net anyways.
There isn't a CIO on this planet who'd rather spend his budget on development and productivity improvements rather than support a cluster of Exchange servers sucking up resources in the data center and requiring an additional Admin to dork around with PowerShell just to see how big mailboxes are (thank you Microsoft). So please, shove this garbage in the cloud and allow business to get back to business rather than every mid size Corp on the planet requiring an IT department.
I agree that QoS is a huge issue and thanks to a unregulated environment the United States has a third world infrastructure in terms of net connectivity. I
The problem for me is that there is no "cloud." Behind every machine there's a face and a name. Albeit, one you don't know but the fact remains.
Attempting to grant anonymity to the "cloud" by using words like "cloud" doesn't change the fact that you've made a decision to give someone you don't know and have never met significant access to your personal and/or business information.
If you're OK with that then can you go ahead and give me your bank account number? While you're at it how about your social security number too? I am, after all, in the "cloud."
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brentpresley - Friday, July 29, 2011 - link
So to answer the last question with a different twist, you should check out CA 3Tera AppLogic. It is a Xen and VMWare Dual HyperVisor Grid/Cloud OS that does interconnects between applications and VMs far far far better than VMWare has even been able to.To get an idea of what it can do, check out the video from CA here:
http://vimeo.com/25161502
Sweeo - Saturday, July 30, 2011 - link
No thank youAbout a week ago I had the misfortune for my router to die on me, so I think the "cloud" would not be a good idea for me for a start
It took my isp 2 weeks to resolve the problem, even after I told them I knew what I was doing' and they use an encripted router, so anyother dint work >.<
There is no way I would use the "cloud" for an other simple reason,security
Aye as simple as that,the stuff igo on my computer is as safe as I can get it, but can you trust the "cloud"
No thanks mate I stay here on terra firma
nnk - Sunday, July 31, 2011 - link
Completely agree with your point of view. Cloud would be great 6 years ago, with even low-price PCs today having excess power for pretty much anything except gaming, it is just a corporate struggle thing.Spivonious - Monday, August 1, 2011 - link
Your ISP forces you to use their routers? Time to switch ISPs.prophet001 - Monday, August 1, 2011 - link
I agree 100%. Why should we offload our personal information to the corporations?Who better to trust with it than ourselves?
The cloud to me looks like a big information grab along with some SaaS profits.
Ratman6161 - Tuesday, August 2, 2011 - link
But I know plenty of people for whom a corporation would be more trustworthy about handling their personal information than they are themselves. I'm specifically talking about the several people I know who have the Ethernet cable from their cable modem plugged directly into their computer with nothing between them and the internet but false hope.I showed up at my in-laws house a couple of days after some cable guy had shown up at their house and "installed the internet" for them and found it set up just that way. My in-laws did not know any better and just knew that they could now browse the internet at high speed. I brought them an old router i had in my closet and did some basic configuration for them to at least keep them from being wide open to the world.
So there are a lot of people out there where a cloud service could very well be more secure than their own system.
spikespiegal - Wednesday, August 3, 2011 - link
Speaking from a corporate perspective I find it somewhat laughable that one of IT's biggest productivity headaches is users spending all day on FaceBook and Yahoo / Gmail, but when it comes to actually moving our business to the 'Cloud' our hackles suddenly go up.Corporate IT departments began to slim down in the early part of this decade, but the past few years have suddenly began to bloat again. Fat client desktop demand has stalled, and most of the time we spend running fixing smartphones which run better hooked to the 'net anyways.
There isn't a CIO on this planet who'd rather spend his budget on development and productivity improvements rather than support a cluster of Exchange servers sucking up resources in the data center and requiring an additional Admin to dork around with PowerShell just to see how big mailboxes are (thank you Microsoft). So please, shove this garbage in the cloud and allow business to get back to business rather than every mid size Corp on the planet requiring an IT department.
I agree that QoS is a huge issue and thanks to a unregulated environment the United States has a third world infrastructure in terms of net connectivity.
I
prophet001 - Thursday, August 4, 2011 - link
The problem for me is that there is no "cloud." Behind every machine there's a face and a name. Albeit, one you don't know but the fact remains.Attempting to grant anonymity to the "cloud" by using words like "cloud" doesn't change the fact that you've made a decision to give someone you don't know and have never met significant access to your personal and/or business information.
If you're OK with that then can you go ahead and give me your bank account number? While you're at it how about your social security number too? I am, after all, in the "cloud."