ROG typically is for Asus's top end consumer products. Yes, I agree they should probably use something else for these super CPUs, but everyone knows Republic of Gamers as being top tier, so Asus... probably to save marketing costs, just use it.
The board also features a full assortment of overclocking options in the BIOS in addition to features such as dual BIOS, on-board power, reset, CMOS clear and safe boot buttons, RGB controls and good VRM cooling and componentry, etc. It's capable of gaming as well as workstation tasks, in keeping with the Threadripper's strange origins as a side project for power users.
it works just fine, but you just don't get as much performance as with a much cheaper CPU with less cores but higher frequency (better performance with 8 or less threads)
Agreed--that's likely to steer people away from the product because not too many people buy the TR to worry themselves over game frame-rates--they usually have much bigger fish to fry...;) I'm not much of a fan of overclocking Zen2--lose your boost/single-thread performance completely--but that's just me...;)
Teaming doesn't magically make more phases - the components being run in parallel (without doublers) are still in phase with each other. It just makes that phase more powerful.
Yes, because they have reduced the target voltage below that which would be applied by default. Voltage is a key component of power usage; the speed is essentially meaningless for temperature, except that if it's faster it might get work done faster and then be able to slow down and lower voltage (which then leads to a lower temperature).
Back in the day a lot of power management was focused on constant speed reduction, but for many workloads it's better to go really fast for a little while, then allow the cores to go to sleep.
Thanks! Question: Are the 3 boards listed the only currently available TRX40 boards? If not, could you add a comparison table of the available boards and their features? Thanks!
Not sure about availability (especially per region), but Gamers Nexus just had a 12 motherboard roundup video the other day, by Buildzoid, looking into the differentiating features of each, in descending order of price.
TL;DW: All of the offerings are perfectly adequate for stock operation - not one dud among them. Choice beyond that will depend on the features you want (overclocking, 10Gb NIC, WiFi, PCIe slot configuration, M.2 slots).
Hi Sir, thanks a lot for the review! Did you carried on a thermal analysis on GIGABYTE TRX40 AORUS? You mention that this is the best TRX40 tested from the cooling perspective. What other boards were tested? Thanks again!
Anyone have a recommendation on the best 32 or 64 gig ddr4 ram kit for overclocking. I read that you can't mix 2 kits together. I've built workstations before but this is the first big gaming rig.
Anyone know why im able to got my threadripper 3970x to run @ 3900 @ 0.4v at 70ish degrees ? I was having issuse with temps. My case has poor air flow and Ive tried a few air coolers but with not luck. So I downloaded Ryzen master and played with the sittings and this seem to be the sweet spot for me. Im using the asus prime trx40. there seem to be an exponential loose off temps and performance past this point .. form 3900 the Voltas has to go up heaps and the system runs hot.. Im happy with this but find the result strange from everthing esle im seeing.
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mark625 - Monday, December 23, 2019 - link
"The ASUS ROG Zenith II Extreme is the predecessor of the previous generation of X399"Shouldn't it be the successor, and not the predecessor? Unless it also has a flux capacitor in there somewhere....
The_Assimilator - Tuesday, December 24, 2019 - link
It should be, but AnandTech should also do basic proofreading, and we know how that goes.Korguz - Tuesday, December 24, 2019 - link
then feel free to go some where else if it bothers you that much.flyingpants265 - Monday, January 6, 2020 - link
I guess we should never, ever, ever complain about anything, then.tech6 - Monday, December 23, 2019 - link
Why use the "Republic Of Gamers" moniker on something that clearly is not designed for gaming?Xyler94 - Monday, December 23, 2019 - link
ROG typically is for Asus's top end consumer products. Yes, I agree they should probably use something else for these super CPUs, but everyone knows Republic of Gamers as being top tier, so Asus... probably to save marketing costs, just use it.Slash3 - Monday, December 23, 2019 - link
The board also features a full assortment of overclocking options in the BIOS in addition to features such as dual BIOS, on-board power, reset, CMOS clear and safe boot buttons, RGB controls and good VRM cooling and componentry, etc. It's capable of gaming as well as workstation tasks, in keeping with the Threadripper's strange origins as a side project for power users.eek2121 - Monday, December 23, 2019 - link
People said that about the 1950X as well. Yet I game at 4k60 all day long (when I'm not doing other stuff that I purchased the processor for).zorxd - Monday, December 23, 2019 - link
it works just fine, but you just don't get as much performance as with a much cheaper CPU with less cores but higher frequency (better performance with 8 or less threads)GreenReaper - Monday, December 23, 2019 - link
Hoping to benefit from the goodwill associated with the Republic in Star Wars?WaltC - Wednesday, December 25, 2019 - link
Agreed--that's likely to steer people away from the product because not too many people buy the TR to worry themselves over game frame-rates--they usually have much bigger fish to fry...;) I'm not much of a fan of overclocking Zen2--lose your boost/single-thread performance completely--but that's just me...;)Hul8 - Monday, December 23, 2019 - link
Teaming doesn't magically make more phases - the components being run in parallel (without doublers) are still in phase with each other. It just makes that phase more powerful.airdrifting - Monday, December 23, 2019 - link
On the overclocking page, higher OC has lower temperature than default BIOS, is this really done correctly?GreenReaper - Tuesday, December 24, 2019 - link
Yes, because they have reduced the target voltage below that which would be applied by default. Voltage is a key component of power usage; the speed is essentially meaningless for temperature, except that if it's faster it might get work done faster and then be able to slow down and lower voltage (which then leads to a lower temperature).Back in the day a lot of power management was focused on constant speed reduction, but for many workloads it's better to go really fast for a little while, then allow the cores to go to sleep.
eastcoast_pete - Monday, December 23, 2019 - link
Thanks! Question: Are the 3 boards listed the only currently available TRX40 boards? If not, could you add a comparison table of the available boards and their features? Thanks!Hul8 - Tuesday, December 24, 2019 - link
Not sure about availability (especially per region), but Gamers Nexus just had a 12 motherboard roundup video the other day, by Buildzoid, looking into the differentiating features of each, in descending order of price.https://youtu.be/UT41-TdvF4c
Hul8 - Tuesday, December 24, 2019 - link
TL;DW: All of the offerings are perfectly adequate for stock operation - not one dud among them. Choice beyond that will depend on the features you want (overclocking, 10Gb NIC, WiFi, PCIe slot configuration, M.2 slots).Amite - Wednesday, December 25, 2019 - link
Just a guess — People that buy rigs like this don’t game at 1080p - Give us ultra high resolution gamingnetojose - Friday, January 10, 2020 - link
Hi Sir, thanks a lot for the review! Did you carried on a thermal analysis on GIGABYTE TRX40 AORUS? You mention that this is the best TRX40 tested from the cooling perspective. What other boards were tested? Thanks again!netojose - Friday, January 10, 2020 - link
Which TRX40 boards did you test for thermal? Did you test GIGABYTE TRX40 AORUS Xtreme?teklord1@yahoo.com - Monday, April 13, 2020 - link
Anyone have a recommendation on the best 32 or 64 gig ddr4 ram kit for overclocking. I read that you can't mix 2 kits together. I've built workstations before but this is the first big gaming rig.Jarmo2127 - Monday, January 10, 2022 - link
Anyone know why im able to got my threadripper 3970x to run @ 3900 @ 0.4v at 70ish degrees ? I was having issuse with temps. My case has poor air flow and Ive tried a few air coolers but with not luck. So I downloaded Ryzen master and played with the sittings and this seem to be the sweet spot for me. Im using the asus prime trx40. there seem to be an exponential loose off temps and performance past this point .. form 3900 the Voltas has to go up heaps and the system runs hot.. Im happy with this but find the result strange from everthing esle im seeing.