Intel previously mention 10nm will be Mobile and DC first. My guess Core M 10nm will be shipping with updated Macbook. But what about 10nm on the DC market?
Previous Roadmap had Desktop sticking to 14nm CoffeeLake for whole of 2018. Any changes to that?
10nm main benefit for CPUs will be in mobile, where they can drop power. It might even be harder to overclock the smaller CPU on the desktop at 10nm than 14nm, since you have to get the heat out of the smaller die.
For most values of "server" (especially in the datacenter), Intel's only competition was IBM's Power architecture. AMD admitted a marketshare "essentially 0%) before launching EPYC. ARM (despite multiple attempts) has been even less. Sparc still exists, but Oracle doesn't appear remotely interesting in maintaining that fact.
Consumers have a few more options even before Zen (not just AMD, but ARM with tablets and chromebooks).
Honestly you guys keep using the word value when it comes to business. $13,000 for a cpu is nothing for Google, Amazon, IBM and ect. Those go for performance. They arent looking for this price to performance value like regular consumers. Also whether you like to admit it or not. Intel has a massive echo system, hardware and software. That you rather pay the premium than deal with the headache of servers being down and what not. I honestly dont think AMD in the end Wont be able to penatrate the server much and ultimalty fail
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iwod - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
Intel previously mention 10nm will be Mobile and DC first. My guess Core M 10nm will be shipping with updated Macbook. But what about 10nm on the DC market?Previous Roadmap had Desktop sticking to 14nm CoffeeLake for whole of 2018. Any changes to that?
guidryp - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
10nm main benefit for CPUs will be in mobile, where they can drop power. It might even be harder to overclock the smaller CPU on the desktop at 10nm than 14nm, since you have to get the heat out of the smaller die.shabby - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
Maybe they'll use solder now to attach to the heatspreader? Oh who am i kidding, they wont.Hayateazekura - Saturday, July 29, 2017 - link
You really dont need to solder a cpu on the main consumer side. Yeah i7 7700k can run hot. But its not a space heater like the skylake x.Gothmoth - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
still enough private consumers and in the server sector intel can screw over with their prices.wumpus - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
For most values of "server" (especially in the datacenter), Intel's only competition was IBM's Power architecture. AMD admitted a marketshare "essentially 0%) before launching EPYC. ARM (despite multiple attempts) has been even less. Sparc still exists, but Oracle doesn't appear remotely interesting in maintaining that fact.Consumers have a few more options even before Zen (not just AMD, but ARM with tablets and chromebooks).
Hayateazekura - Saturday, July 29, 2017 - link
Honestly you guys keep using the word value when it comes to business. $13,000 for a cpu is nothing for Google, Amazon, IBM and ect. Those go for performance. They arent looking for this price to performance value like regular consumers. Also whether you like to admit it or not. Intel has a massive echo system, hardware and software. That you rather pay the premium than deal with the headache of servers being down and what not. I honestly dont think AMD in the end Wont be able to penatrate the server much and ultimalty failzodiacfml - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
I have no idea how Samsung's chip business surpassed Intel even at this record quarter.zavrtak - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
Smartphones, memory, camera's sensors, etc. Samsung covers so much more ground than Intel.frenchy_2001 - Friday, July 28, 2017 - link
Don't forget their foundry business too.Samsung is just massive and most of it's business is B2B, so pretty much invisible to consumers.