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  • mdriftmeyer - Thursday, January 26, 2017 - link

    Intel is a dividend only stock. Cash out and buy AMD if you have a brain.
  • Samus - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    Even when AMD was competitive with Intel over a decade ago, they weren't a good buy, and haven't been since. I have never met a single person who made money on AMD stock. Some people turned out well who owned ATi stock because as we all now know, they were overvalued and AMD overpaid.

    Of all a-list tech companies, I couldn't think of a worst buy than AMD. I hope, someday, this changes.
  • Haawser - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    Worst buy ?? It was $1.79 last March, and is now $10+ Your 'worst buy' would have made people over 5 x their money had they invested at the right time. I only *wish* I'd bought some at that price.
  • Michael Bay - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    You`d be outright crazy buying amd a year or two ago, and not much better now. As zen hype settles, it will return to the bottom just as quickly.
  • yannigr2 - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    I can understand your agony. With AMD becoming competitive in the consumer and enterprise market, Nvidia eating from the Datacenter market, Qualcomm announcing multicore ARM base server SoCs and Microsoft demostrating a Windows emulator for the ARM platform, you are probably very nervous about your Intel stock valuation. Do you sleep well at nights?
  • Michael Bay - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    >amd becoming competitive
    >muh arm servers
    >201X will be a year of loonix on a desktop

    I thought even the most hopeless cultist would get tired of repeating this well worn mantra set, but you guys somehow always manage to surprise.
  • Ej24 - Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - link

    Not really. AMD will never just vanish, aside from Intel they have the only other x86 license in the world. Even if they crash and struggle they'll be bought out and you can bet there will be a bidding war over the rights to x86. Even when it was down around $1.50, just buy 1000 shares, it's only $1500, not the end of the world if they get bought out at $1.30 a share. It's already so low at that point it can't go lower. After all, their Intellectual Property simply has an intrinsic value. There was far more chance to gain than to lose back when AMD was around $2. As long as Zen is a genuine competitor to Intel again and OEM's stop relegating AMD to bargain basement models they should remain competitive at $10/share. Also if Lisa Su can keep wiping the debt off the books, they'll actually start to fill their coffers again. Thats one of their biggest detriments at this time, they have very little R&D budget with so much debt. They can't even touch the R&D and Advertising machine that Nvidia has become. But she's chipping away at it steadily. As long as the fundamentals keep improving I have no reason to believe AMD won't stay at or above $10.
  • Nagorak - Saturday, January 28, 2017 - link

    AMD was priced like it was going out of business last year and it Manchester to pull through, thus the outsized gains. However this outcome was far from certain, which meant no one could really interest more than a small amount in the stock anyway. It was just too risky. Maybe some did put a substantial amount of their network in AMD, and they were handsomely rewarded, but it was pretty much a gamble and not a prudent investment decision.
  • Nagorak - Saturday, January 28, 2017 - link

    Damn auto correct...
  • Gothmoth - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    and you know many people who have a clue about stock.

    don´t kid yourself you are probably a 20 year old gamer or a IT guy that thinks he has a clue about the stock market. such people are always the loser on the stock market in the end. that´s why it exists.. somebody has to lose money.

    there are plenty of people who know what they are doing.... and they even make money when AMD drops.

  • Nagorak - Saturday, January 28, 2017 - link

    Yeah... most people involved in the stock market really don't know what they're doing. Some make some big bets and do well for a while but they end up flaming out. Most just end up following the herd and buying when things are expensive and selling when they are cheap. I'm certainly not impressed with the majority involved in the financial markets--including the "pros".
  • duploxxx - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    The monopoly they have is on the edge of being dangerous. Yet many IT organisations will always and only buy from the djingle company in every segment even if there are other choices that are as good as.
    In the end the cost is just higher for everybody since there is no competition.... poor human mind. Praise HPinc and HPe for not being a sheep.
  • Gothmoth - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    the intekl monopoly has to be broken.

    i wish AMD all the best.
    i will probably not buy an ryzen this year but i hope many people do.

    since 2004 i use intel but this monopoly has to stop.

    only ~30% more performance from sandy bride to kaby lake.. that alone is enough to wish for competition.
  • Michael Bay - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    Monopoly of electron physics is a terrible thing, indeed.
  • patrickjp93 - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    There's more than 100% performance improvement from Sandy Bridge to Kaby Lake if you have software that properly takes advantage of AVX2. For all those extensions which AVX1 didn't cover, the throughput over SSE1/2/3/4 is double.

    The problem with performance gains is not Intel. It's software. Even games make very little use of SSE1/2/3/4 which are already 4x as powerful as standard scalar code.
  • JKflipflop98 - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    You should go look up the definition of the word "monopoly". You're using it wrong.
  • Alexey291 - Saturday, January 28, 2017 - link

    Depending on the situation monopoly can mean anything from 'single company in the market' through 'controls over 50% of the market's sales'.

    Obviously people tend to pick the definition that suits them best.
  • TristanSDX - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    "Looking forward to Q1 2017, Intel is forecasting a midpoint revenue range of $14.8 billion, with margin estimates at 62%."
    Look like they know that Ryzen is crap, or their management is super arogant
  • Haawser - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    After years of pleading from customers it seems that Intel have finally decided to release Pentiums with HT and unlocked i3's... Now you *could* (if you were mentally unstable) put this down to the goodness of their hearts and desire to 'do right' by their loyal customers.

    Or you could just see things how they really are, and see that Ryzen has them rattled. ;)
  • coolhead - Friday, January 27, 2017 - link

    AMD is no longer a good buy, AMD is now an extremely risky buy as the wave is over it's the wait and see period. The thing is yeah Zen will probably eat some of Intels money and make AMD some cash, but you have to remember AMD being competitive is keeping companies like ARM at bay from entering the market and what is good for x86 is good for intel

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