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  • Samus - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link

    I thought Intel was ditching all this Atom stuff? They axed the whole smartphone plan...
  • vladx - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link

    They only axed Atom-based tablets and smartphones, doesn't mean can't be used for other devices...
  • zeo - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    ATOMs weren't only for smartphones... So they're only dropping that segment of it but 2 in 1's and budget PC range is still going... Though, only the mobile SoCs were still branded as ATOMs. The Apollo Lake will be rebranded as Celeron/Pentium...
  • Kjella - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link

    Kaby Lake and Win7 support, weren't they dropping that? Not that I'm complaining...
  • vladx - Friday, July 15, 2016 - link

    Any future x86 CPU will work on Win7/8.1 you just won't get benefit of new instructions like AVX 512 and the like.
  • RaichuPls - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    So instead of useful stuff (smartphone reviews, GPU reviews), you guys are now posting rumors.
  • close - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Then again, reader quality has also gone down more than a few notches lately and you're the perfect example of that. Gone are the interesting discussions about the article at hand, different point of views and real world experience that sometimes were more interesting than the article itself.
    Here *you* are (and a bunch of other brats) always whining Anandtech didn't review the product you want to buy and thinking you're the guys who can define what's *useful*.

    Let me give you a hand since you look like you're way more into whining than actually doing anything:
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=galaxy+s7+review
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gtx+1080+review
  • RaichuPls - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Your links are outdated. Galaxy S7 review is out (after 3 months), and what I want is a GTX 1080/1070 review FROM Anandtech.

    Also HTC 10
  • close - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Well what I want is for brats on the internet to know that a link to a Google search cannot be "outdated" because it's just a search. Get it? It's a search that shows you plenty of reviews already out in case reviews are what you're after. But you're not after reviews, you're just here to whine because that's what you were taught to do.

    This is a news article. If you bothered to read the site you'd have known that Anton Shilov posts news articles, not reviews. You'd know the difference between a press release and a "rumor". But you don't. You're just here to whine for the sake of whining.

    So you see, we don't always get what we want ;). How about you start whining about this, add some variety to your otherwise stale and repetitive whines...
  • close - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    So the links that GOOGLE gives you (they are not my links, I linked to 2 SEARCHES, not to any one site or review) are outdated? I take it GTX 1080/1070 have evolved so much in the past weeks that a 2-6 week old review is OUTDATED? Or maybe the Galaxy S7 has changed so much in the past months. So 2 weeks or so from now you'll be back complaining that the S7 review is outdated, right?

    Are you looking to buy a Galaxy S7? The HTC 10? A GTX1070 or 1080? Click on the links above and you'll find dozens of reviews that tell you what you need to know.

    But we both know you're not looking to buy any of these. You're just a "professional" complainer. A brat that doesn't actually NEED anything, you just find something and complain about it.
  • RaichuPls - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    I'm looking to buy a Razer Blade with a Razer Core, and have yet to decide on whether to put in a GTX 1080 or a 1070, which is why I've been waiting for the Anandtech reviews on the GPUs.

    I've already bought a Galaxy S7, but the HTC 10 was being considered at one point, but since there wasn't a review on it, I didn't get swayed on my decision.
  • devione - Sunday, July 17, 2016 - link

    Bless you, previous thing, if you so desperately need to rely on reviews and not your own judgement.
  • devione - Sunday, July 17, 2016 - link

    Precious*
  • RaichuPls - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link

    If I don't rely on reviews, then what's the point of sites like Anandtech? I want objective views on a product I'm considering to purchase.
  • Morawka - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    just file a complaint with Purch guys, that's the only thing that will light a fire under these missing reviews.
  • Ian Cutress - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Our news team is not our reviews team.
  • pedjache - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Do you have a management team? I'd like to voice my concern without getting bitten by anandpologist hounds (see example above).
  • Impulses - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link

    You can always email Ryan, he'll either ignore you or reply thoughtfully I imaging... Either way it's bound to be more productive than the whaaaasmbulance in the comments.

    I emailed Billy the other day thinking he might wanna post a Pipeline blurb about the hella late 840 EVO update, didn't see it or a reply tho, dunno if I should've emailed Anton instead.
  • dakishimesan - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link

    As a NUC broadwell user, I find this news interesting and relevant -- even if I wasn't, we learn some new things about Intel's strategy for Atom and Kaby Lake (like that hte Kaby Like i7 NUC will have an Iris gpu implemenation).

    Generally speaking guys and gals, let's cut the team here at Anandtech some slack, can we? They still have and have always had the most detailed and technically informative reviews on the Internet, they put comprehensive reporting above being the first to publish, they're smart and dedicated. It's our responsibility to have fruitful discussions in the comment section and not just complain, that will benefit everyone who truly loves technology and wants to learn.
  • jordanclock - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    It's almost as if Anandtech consists of employees with a myriad of discrete positions, some of which don't involve reviewing devices and components!
  • kaidenshi - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Troll harder, you're not getting enough bites.
  • Meteor2 - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link

    Can only agree. I didn't regard Anandtech as a rumour site, more an announced-fact and details site.
  • nirolf - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Will Apollo Lake support HVEC 10bits decoding? It would be interesting if it does, I'm still hoping for a silent HTPC.
  • patel21 - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Me too, I have postponed my htpc purchase, just for proper hardware decoding cpu in small form factor and price :-)
  • wintermute000 - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Well Kaby Lake will (since Sky Lake already does HW 8-bit HEVC) so you will have at least one option, though it would be nice to save some $$$ if Apollo Lake also supports HW 10-bit HEVC
  • Michael Bay - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    As if you`re going to see hevc being used outside of anime subbing niche.
    H.264 is here to stay for a LONG time.
  • Icehawk - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Sorry Mr Bay but HEVC is everywhere - yes x264 is still the mainstream option but most shows/movies are available in HEVC now. 99% of my watching is via HEVC
  • Alexvrb - Sunday, July 17, 2016 - link

    Wrong. HEVC is getting more popular for most content and vastly more popular for 4K. Saves providers bandwidth, especially at high resolutions. Just as an example, there's a couple of "small" providers that use HEVC - Netflix and Hulu. You may have heard of one of them in passing. I know you probably still think Divx 3.11 480p is good enough for anyone but... gee whiz there's people out there that have cause to disagree.

    Of course, you're probably right there's never any reason to buy hardware with support for up and coming technology. You should buy hardware that has to be replaced in a year when a new standard really takes hold.
  • dakishimesan - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link

    Oh thanks for this info, didn't know this. Does Netflix only use HEVC for 4k?
  • Alexvrb - Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - link

    As far as I know, yes. When it was introduced it was exclusively HEVC in the ~15 mbps range (maybe a bit less for some shows). I don't know if they ever started doing 4K in H.264 but I doubt it. Bitrates would skyrocket (>20 mbps) or they'd lose quality making it pointless vs more economical 1080p streams. Even for sub-4K content HEVC is gaining traction. More and more devices support it, and AVC streams are still available in various resolutions as a fallback. So why not.
  • Impulses - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link

    His nickname is oddly fitting, both him and the namesake are pretty oblivious... I'd almost say he had to be sarcastic but that level of wit can't possibly coexist here with the whaaaambulance about missing reviews... I'm torn.
  • TheJian - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Wake me when these can do 1080P gaming at 60fps maxed in every game. Until then I have no use for one of these and would build my own slightly larger box with a discrete gpu inside and at the least, a quad core. Not sure what the point is in having a really expensive vid player with minimal abilities over what I already have in 2-3's in every room. In order to take a spot in my entertainment center you have to bring much more than vids to the table (and a crappy core).

    Since I refuse to buy another sony/msft console (rather see these die a quick death), this thing has to do some serious PC gaming or give me something else like android's side of games to come which keep getting more and more enticing these days (can't wait for vulkan games to appear soon). I'm thinking I'll wait for shield tv rev2 with 14nm/10nm assuming I go NV for the next gpu. At least I can stream my nv gpu and play android stuff on the tv. I can already play any movie I want in all the formats I need (via multiple devices) with a nice receiver and bose system. I have room for a much more capable box. Dual core and words like Celeron/atom are against my religion at this point...LOL. Even the 4 core celly @10w...ROFL. No thanks. I really hope NV's next tv box is MUCH closer in size/watts to xbox1/ps4. It only needs to notch down to ~10-15w for a vid play which it already does, then back to 80-130w for gaming (more? heck 200w). Or sell two styles, one smaller like the current and a much larger like xbox1 with room for at least a 1060 or something
  • retrospooty - Sunday, July 17, 2016 - link

    That's an awfully long post just to say ”I am into gaming, this product isn't for me”. Needless to say it has a purpose. These little things use very little power, make no noise and run 99% of today's software for normal users ( not gamers or graphics design). They are quite impressive for what they are.
  • dakishimesan - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link

    I've been truly amazed by my i5 Broadwell NUC. It doesn't have the most powerful iGPU, but it is surprisingly capable at playing slightly older games like Payday 2 or Borderlands Pre-Sequel, and it idles at 10watts and only pulls 28w at full load, the whole machine! It's incredible. It's also relatively quiet, and works perfectly for Hackintosh/Win10 dual booting. quite the little machine. I replaced my broken mac mini with one because of how outdated the mac mini is at the moment.
  • damianrobertjones - Thursday, November 3, 2016 - link

    External GPU box via usb C?
  • twotwotwo - Saturday, July 16, 2016 - link

    Those holes on the front look roughly the size to be mic holes, and weren't there on the Skylake i5. Any intel (ha) on whether that's what they are? I don't see any mention in the posted slides. Could be useful to have a built-in mic; you could take a Skype call with headphones (and not a mic'd headset) plugged in, for instance.
  • esterhasz - Sunday, July 17, 2016 - link

    Good find. Would make a lot of sense, too - not really practical to add a mic just for voice commands.
  • nagi603 - Monday, July 18, 2016 - link

    IIRC, Intel had problems with the previous i7, it was throttling like hell. How are they going to keep a 45W CPU cool after failing a 28W?
  • lucyfek - Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - link

    more fake i7(u) at double the price of an i5. PR crap

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