SKUs and Pricing

Before we start with the benchmarks, we first want to see what you get for your money. Let's compare the AMD chips with Intel's offerings. To reduce the clutter, we did not list all of the SKUs but have tried to include useful points of comparison.

AMD vs. Intel 2-socket SKU Comparison
Xeon
E5
Cores/
Threads
TDP Clock Speed
(GHz)
Price Opteron Modules/
Integer
cores
TDP Clock Speed
(GHz)
Price
High Performance High Performance
2697v2 12/24 130W 2.7-3.5 $2614          
2695v2 12/24 115W 2.4-3.2 $2336          
2687Wv2 8/16 150W 3.4-4.0 $2108          
2680v2 10/20 115W 2.8-3.6 $1723          
2680(*) 8/16 130W 2.7-3.5 $1723          
2660v2 10/20 115W 2.2-3.0 $1389 6386SE 8/16 140W 2.8-3.5 $1392
Midrange Midrange
2650v2 8/16 95W 2.6-3.4 $1166 6380 8/16 115W 2.5-3.4 $1088
2640v2 8/16 95W 2.0-2.5 $885          
          6376 8/16 115W 2.3-3.2 $703
Budget Budget
2630v2 6/12 80W 2.6-3.1 $612 6348 6/12 115W 2.8-3.4 $575
2620v2 6/12 80W 2.1-2.6 $406 6234 6/12 115W 2.4-3.0 $415
Power Optimized Power Optimized
2650Lv2 10/20 70W 1.7-2.1 $1219          
2630Lv2 6/12 70W 2.4-2.8 $612 6366HE 8/16 85W 1.8-3.1 $575

(*) Sandy Bridge based Xeon, for reference purposes

The lack of competition at the high-end cannot be more obvious. AMD simply does not have anything competitive at the moment in that part of the market. However, Intel and the OEMs still have to convince the data center people to keep the upgrade cycles relatively short. If you look at the the E5 2680 v2, you get two extra cores, a 100MHz clock speed bump and a lower TDP compared to the predecessor E5 2680. Intel charges more for the best Xeons, but you do get more for your money.

The most expensive Xeon (at 130W TDP) is a lot more expensive, but that is no surprise given the fact that it it is an expensive chip to make with such a massive die (12 cores, 30MB L3, two separate memory controllers).

Every Opteron has been relegated to the lower-end and midrange segments, and it is not looking good. We know that the AMD Opteron needs more threads or clock speed to keep up with the previous Xeon E5 performance wise. The midrange and budget AMD Opterons no longer have that advantage, and they need more power too. A price cut looks to be necessary, although an Opteron server is typically less expensive than a similar Xeon system.

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  • JohanAnandtech - Friday, September 20, 2013 - link

    I have to admit were are new to SPECjbb 2013. Any suggestions for the JVM tunings to reduce the GC latency?
  • mking21 - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link

    Surely its more interesting to see if the 12 core is faster than the 10 and 8 core V2s.
    Its not obvious to me that the 12 Core can out perform the 2687w v2 in real world measures rather than in synthetic benchmarks. The higher sustained turbo clock is really going to be hard to beat.
  • JohanAnandtech - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link

    There will be a follow-up, with more energy measurements, and this looks like a very interesting angle too. However, do know that the maximum Turbo does not happen a lot. In case of the 2697v2, we mostly saw 3 GHz, hardly anything more.
  • mking21 - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link

    Yes based on bin specs 3Ghz is what I would expect from 2697v2 if more than 6 or more cores are in use. 5 or more cores on 2687wv2 will run @ 3.6Ghz. While 2690v2 will run 3.3Ghz with 4 or more cores. So flat out the 12 core will be faster than 10 core will be faster than 8 core - but in reality hard to run these flat out with real-world tasks, so usually faster clock wins. Look forward to u sharing some comparative benchmarks.
  • psyq321 - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link

    3 GHz is the maximum all-core turbo for 2697 v2.

    You are probably seeing 3 GHz because several cores are in use and 100% utilized.
  • JohanAnandtech - Friday, September 20, 2013 - link

    With one thread, the CPU ran at 3.4 GHz but only for very brief periods (almost unnoticeable).
  • polyzp - Saturday, September 21, 2013 - link

    AMD's Kaveri IGPU absolutley destroys intel iris 5200! Look at the first benchmarks ever leaked! +500% :O

    AMDFX .blogspot.com
  • Jajo - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    E5-2697v2 vs. E5-2690 +30% performance @ +50% cores? I am a bit disappointed. Don't get me wrong, I am aware of the 200 Mhz difference and the overall performance per watt ratio is great but I noticed something similar with the last generation (X5690 vs. E5-2690).
    There are still some single threaded applications out there and yes, there is a turbo. But it won't be aggressive on an averagely loaded ESXi server which might host VMs with single threaded applications.
    I somehow do not like this development, my guess is that the Hex- or Octacore CPUs with higher clocks are still a better choice for virtualization in such a scenario.

    Just my 2 cents
  • Chrisrodinis - Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - link

    Here is an easy to understand, hands on video explaining how to upgrade your server by installing an Intel E5 2600 V2 processor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duzrULLtonM
  • DileepB - Thursday, October 31, 2013 - link

    I think 12 core diagram and description are incorrect! The mainstream die is indeed a 10 core die with 25 MB L3 that most skus are derived from. But the second die is actually a 15 core die with 37.5 MB. I am guessing (I know I am right :-))
    That they put half of the 10 core section with its QPIs and memory controllers, 5 cores and 12.5 MB L3 on top and connected the 2 sections using an internal QPI. From the outside it looks like a 15 core part, currently sold as a 12 core part only. A full 15 core sku would require too much power well above the 130W TDP that current platforms are designed for. They might sell the 15 core part to high end HPC customers like Cray! The 12 core sku should have roughly 50% higher die area than the 10 core die!

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