Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra (Snapdragon 865) Quick Performance Preview: Impressiveby Andrei Frumusanu on March 13, 2020 6:00 AM EST
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Samsung's Galaxy S20 series phones have been available since last Friday in markets such as the US. And earlier this week we also finally received a unit, in the form of a North American, Snapdragon 865-based Galaxy S20 Ultra. While our review is already underway, we’re also still waiting for public availability in Europe in order to get our hands on our Rest of World, Exynos 990 variant, so that we can take a comprehensive look at both variants of the S20 series. As we've seen in previous years, there have been some pretty significant differences between the Snapdragon and Exynos models at times, thanks to the SoC selection impacting everything from performance to image processing.
But first things first: since we have a bit of a lead time with the Snapdragon unit, we wanted to at least publish the performance figures for this model ahead of the full review, to temporarily satisfy everyone’s curiosity on at least this aspect of the phone.
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System performance of the new Galaxy S20 Ultra is an interesting topic, as there are several new aspects to this year’s flagship phone. The one big difference that trumps every other addition is the fact that Samsung has been able to integrate a new 120Hz refresh rate display. This change alone puts the new S20 series far ahead of other mainstream phones in the market, and the new experience is fantastic.
Besides the new higher refresh rate screen, we’re also naturally seeing the upgrade to newer generation SoCs. In this first instance, we’re testing the Snapdragon 865 variant of the Galaxy S20 Ultra. For their latest flagship SoC, Qualcomm adopted the new Cortex-A77 CPU cores, promising to bring 20-25% higher performance over its predecessor.
Finally, we do have to remember that Samsung has a “performance” feature in its battery settings, which increases the aggressiveness of the scheduler to fully unlock the performance of the phone. Usually we test Samsung phones with this option enabled, both in our performance as well as battery life testing.
Starting off with our usual system performance tests, these evaluations are highly sensitive to the responsiveness of the phone, which is tied to the aggressiveness of the DVFS and scheduler of the CPUs. For the Galaxy S20 Ultra, we have four score combinations, showcasing the 60 and 120Hz modes, as well as the “High Performance” mode on or off.
The web browsing test in PCMark is quite sensitive to performance responsiveness, and in this regard, the new Snapdragon 865 doesn’t disappoint. Switching between the 60 and 120Hz modes, we see a notable increase in fluidity, and this is picked up by the benchmark.
At the highest performing settings, the new Galaxy S20 Ultra even outperforms the QRD865 platform that we tested back in December. This was quite surprising, as I wasn't expecting commercial devices to ship with as aggressive settings as that phone’s “Performance Mode”, which did seem tad aggressive.
The video editing test has largely lost its performance scaling usefulness, but still is able to pick up the new 120Hz mode of the S20U, representing a jump ahead of any other phone in the market.
The writing sub-test is very important in terms of being a representation of every-day snappiness of a phone, and the Galaxy S20 Ultra here tops the charts, falling in line with the best scores from the QRD865 as well as now slightly leaping ahead of Huawei’s Mate 30 Pro.
The photo editing test similarly is scaling up in performance across the different setting configurations, showcasing fantastic performance.
The data manipulation score also seemingly is tied to the framerate achieved during the test, and the 120Hz mode of the S20U leads all other devices.
In the overall results, no matter what setting you’re using, the Galaxy S20 Ultra with the Snapdragon 865 tops all other commercially available Android phones out there, and at its peak settings, it even outperforms the QRD865 in its aggressive performance mode.
I did some quick testing of the DVFS aggressiveness between the optimized and performance modes, and was surprised to see no difference in the resulting scaling behavior. This means that the performance differences must arrive from the overall more aggressive scheduling, rather than scaling up to higher frequencies sooner. We’ll go over this aspect in more detail in the full review.
In all our three web tests, we see the S20 Ultra in line with what the QRD865 was able to achieve, with some slight leads in WebXPRT 3. The Cortex-A77 seemingly doesn’t improve its instruction throughput very much in high instruction pressure heavy workloads such as the web-based JS benchmarks, so that’s possibly why we aren’t seeing that large increases here.
CPU Performance & Power
Our power testing back in December on the QRD865 platform wasn't quite as accurate as I would have hoped for, as the phone's power management funcitonality as well PMIC calibration weren’t quite polished. I had opted to publish numbers on the more pessimistic side of the scale, and I’m glad I did as it does turn out that the new chipset performs quite a bit better in actual commercial devices, including of course the S20 Ultra.
These new figures mean that the Snapdragon 865 actually does not behave as expected – we had been anticipating it requiring more power to achieve its higher performance points – and instead Qualcomm has managed to reduce absolute power all while increasing the performance. As a result, we’re seeing a much larger generational improvement in the energy efficiency of the chip. The new “middle” cores of the Snapdragon 865 also outperform the performance cores of the Snapdragon 855, and that does signify for quite a large multi-threaded performance boost.
We’ll be going over the detailed results as well as include an analysis of the Exynos 990 chip in our full review, but for now, it seems that the Snapdragon 865 is an excellent chipset, and will serve as a great base for 2020 devices.
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dotjaz - Friday, March 13, 2020 - linkA12 didn't have similar improvement over A11, that's with N7 vs N10. Thunder didn't have the same effect with doubled L2 either.
Don't try to convince anyone that mere LPDDR5 vs 4x can cause such a big difference for single thread, we both know that's not even remotely possible.
Wilco1 - Friday, March 13, 2020 - linkWrong - a larger L3 makes a huge difference, 32% when using a 32MB L3. From the Graviton2 article:
"Compared to a mobile Cortex-A76 such as in the Kirin 990 (which is the best A76 implementation out there), the resulting IPC is 32% better for the Graviton2 in SPECint2006, and 10% better for SPECfp2006. This goes to show what kind of a massive difference the memory subsystem can have on a system that is otherwise similar in terms of the CPU microarchitecture."
Sivar - Friday, March 13, 2020 - linkGenerally, doubling cache size does not help performance much unless the cache is far too small already. The memory subsystem is about far more than cache. Memory controller design, clock syncing vs async, trace distances, set associativity, and many other factors come into play.
Look at any example in history of cache doubling on a given architecture. You will not see a 30% gain, certainly not an 80% gain.
UnmaskedUnderflow - Friday, March 13, 2020 - linkYou're muddling ipc uplift vs power efficiency gain. Yes, on a spec, sub system won't buy you much save in mcf type workloads on raw perf. But you're overlooking the dram effect. On die cache reduces traffic to dram, which for a mobile soc, is exponentially more expensive to access both thermally and energy wise than any horseplay on the soc. The result is real. And even Apple knows this, their massive caches and resultant perf/W are not a mistake. Dram is your mobile enemy for battery life.
dotjaz - Sunday, March 15, 2020 - linkWhatever. 66%-94% efficiency jump is just unrealistic no matter how you put it.
masimilianzo - Friday, March 13, 2020 - linkIn SpecInt2k6 there are tests that are very sensitive to memory latency and others which are very sensitive to memory bandwidth. So you can increase perf a lot.
Doubling the L3 cache gives you a lot more perf (Spec data set size is way bigger than 2MB) and also saves on power because you go less often to DDR memory which is crazy high power.
SanX - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link865 processor sucks versus Apple. The iPhone 11 Pro is whopping 100% faster than S20 on Speedometer2 and JetSctream2 yet Samsung insists in equal prices... Hahahaha
Alistair - Friday, March 13, 2020 - linkI wish it was equal prices. I don't care about the high end. I'm looking at iPhone 11 vs S20, $700 vs $1000. $300 more, that's crazy.
4k HDR - Saturday, March 14, 2020 - linkWait for 3 month s20 will be cheaper than iPhone 11.
Nicon0s - Monday, March 23, 2020 - linkThe S20 is a true end to end flagship with a top of the line OLED screen and camera system. It's comparable to the iphone 11 Pro not the plain 11.
iPhone 11 basically has the same mediocre screen found in the XR, exactly the same screen, apple mostly only changed the SOC and camera system.