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  • Mil0 - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Well for the first release of a new arch, this is pretty good. More FineWine potential here, also with arch tweaks - see how much they gained with Zen 2.
    And efficiency wise I think the cooperation with Samsungccould turn out to be very helpful. Targeting mobile/tablets necessitates this.
  • neblogai - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    It is because it is clocked so. If you look at the 5700, that is rated the same 180W, with performance (judging from the slides) very close to 2070. Of course, that is ~parity when comparing the products- cards, not the technological level (because this is all 12nm nVidia vs 7nm AMD).
  • mode_13h - Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - link

    Looking at AMD's GPU roadmap slides, they say that perf/W will be an area of continued focus.

    That's the right idea, anyhow. Efficiency isn't a one-time feature - it's an ongoing journey.

    Nvidia has gone so far that it's not surprising AMD hasn't yet caught them.
  • evernessince - Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - link

    If you factor in that the 5700 XT is faster, those power numbers seem extremely competitive.
  • CiccioB - Tuesday, June 18, 2019 - link

    When you factor the 5700 XT is a PP ahead of nvidia, those power numbers (and die size) are awful for the performance they get.
  • m16 - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    I see no problem with no HDMI support. That's a TV standard, and can easily get adapted from DP via an adapter. It also makes the card pricier to have a new controller to support that standard, so there's that. They might release a HTPC version of a card later to support that, but that's not even in my or most of the PC gamers' I know radar.
  • Beaver M. - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    They are both crap. You should wait for the next gen, which is probably coming next year anyway.
  • evernessince - Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - link

    Ray Tracing and DLSS are worthless on a 2070. At least with AMD you can use their upscaler / sharpener with a less then 1% performance impact with better results then DLSS. I don't see a problem with AMD introducing features that work instead of pipe dreams that suck in implementation like Nvidia.
  • haukionkannel - Thursday, June 13, 2019 - link

    Ray trasing is irrelevant at this point. Only one card 2080ti can run raytrasing at reasonable speed... and 2080ti cost 1200$ so no it is good that Navi don`t have it yet!
    If Navi will have it next year. Expect less speed with more money next year... because raytrasing takes up chip space for pure raw draving speed...
  • powerarmour - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Probably DOA these...

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