Ultra High-End PSU Roundup
by Christoph Katzer on October 22, 2007 6:00 AM EST- Posted in
- Cases/Cooling/PSUs
Tagan ITZ 1300W
Tagan is not a newcomer in the market even, though it might be a new name for some. Tagan has existed for quite a few years, and they started life in Germany with roots tracing to a company called Maxpoint. The story of Maxpoint is indeed a wild one. Maxpoint started as a branch office from Enermax in Hamburg. After several turbulent disagreements, one of the shareholders bought Enermax out and started Maxpoint as a separate company. In the beginning they functioned as a distributor for PC parts, still including Enermax power supplies.
The competition in the market was growing steadily since there was another former colleague from Maxpoint who started another brand called "Be quiet!" A better name was needed, and thus Tagan came into being. Tagan has experienced ups and downs, but today after ~7 years of existence we can still see that Tagan is producing with renowned Topower. Topower had its brightest years several years back and unfortunately lost a lot of customers due to several problems in terms of quality and production. In our list of reviewed power supplies, we have only seen Tagan still sourcing from Topower.
Last year Tagan USA was established to get into the US market. With the ITZ series Tagan is introducing a very new approach to power supplies since it's the first time the company is using another color than black. With ITZ Tagan is actually coming back to its rightful place in the high-end business since there have been several complications with former product lines in other markets. Tagan USA sent us the 1300W version to show what they're capable of achieving. For the USA Tagan teamed up with the company ABS (parent company of Newegg) and you will find the ABS logo on almost every corner of the PSU. The label states 20A for each of the six 12V rails with a combined power of 92A - again, that's quite a load to come up with!
The unit comes wrapped up in a bubble bag with all the necessary accessories. There are cable ties, a Molex to floppy adapter, screws, and the power cord attached in the box. As already mentioned this power supply comes in a shiny blue color mirror finish. Not pictured are the front and sides; the front of the unit has an 80mm fan (with ABS logo in the center) and the side has the label and above it there are many small holes punched in the metal. We will come back to their function a little later. The rear also has an 80mm fan installed - along with the power socket and a huge power switch - which functions in a push-pull configuration. Since we got a Topower handpicked sample we still have the Topower sample number on the case and red dots for measuring the fan speed.
Everything about the Cables
The power supply definitely has the largest amount of cables we have seen so far. Not only do we have four 6-pin PEG connectors but we also get two additional 8-pin PEG connectors on separate cable harnesses. That's fewer PEG connections than the Cooler Master, but Tagan compensates in other ways. The PEG connections are accompanied by twelve SATA connectors on three harnesses and seven Molex connectors on three harnesses. We actually ran out of space on our cable graphic and had to make the best out of it. All cables are sleeved and the PEG cable harnesses are even sleeved with an aluminum mesh with rubber hose. In the end of each PEG cable is a ferrite coil to minimize ripple on the rails.
Once we had this very long power supply open we recognized the inside immediately. We have seen this design already one year ago in the first revision of Topower which didn't perform well at all. We can only hope that this one is a much higher revision and that all the problems from a year ago have been solved. Just to be safe, though, we'll keep a fire extinguisher handy during testing....
Forgetting for a moment our previous bad experience, the inside is very packed since we have one component after another and two huge flower-shaped heat sinks in the middle of it. There is nothing easily visible on the PCB and we could hardly make out the manufacturers of the components. The fans are located directly beside the heat sinks. This might look bad for some at first sight but the heat sinks have actually a round opening going horizontal through it so the air is guided easily through the power supply. Note also that the fan which is pulling the out of the PSU is stronger than the one pushing in. This means that there is more air pulled out than pushed in. Now the openings on the sides come into play because the air which is pulled out can also enter through the side openings. In theory, this helps to provide more fresh air to components besides the ones near the intake fan. On the secondary we had no chance to pull any cable beside to have a look at the components behind it. Everything is tight here and can't even be budged a millimeter without risking damage to the PSU internals.
Tagan is not a newcomer in the market even, though it might be a new name for some. Tagan has existed for quite a few years, and they started life in Germany with roots tracing to a company called Maxpoint. The story of Maxpoint is indeed a wild one. Maxpoint started as a branch office from Enermax in Hamburg. After several turbulent disagreements, one of the shareholders bought Enermax out and started Maxpoint as a separate company. In the beginning they functioned as a distributor for PC parts, still including Enermax power supplies.
The competition in the market was growing steadily since there was another former colleague from Maxpoint who started another brand called "Be quiet!" A better name was needed, and thus Tagan came into being. Tagan has experienced ups and downs, but today after ~7 years of existence we can still see that Tagan is producing with renowned Topower. Topower had its brightest years several years back and unfortunately lost a lot of customers due to several problems in terms of quality and production. In our list of reviewed power supplies, we have only seen Tagan still sourcing from Topower.
Last year Tagan USA was established to get into the US market. With the ITZ series Tagan is introducing a very new approach to power supplies since it's the first time the company is using another color than black. With ITZ Tagan is actually coming back to its rightful place in the high-end business since there have been several complications with former product lines in other markets. Tagan USA sent us the 1300W version to show what they're capable of achieving. For the USA Tagan teamed up with the company ABS (parent company of Newegg) and you will find the ABS logo on almost every corner of the PSU. The label states 20A for each of the six 12V rails with a combined power of 92A - again, that's quite a load to come up with!
The unit comes wrapped up in a bubble bag with all the necessary accessories. There are cable ties, a Molex to floppy adapter, screws, and the power cord attached in the box. As already mentioned this power supply comes in a shiny blue color mirror finish. Not pictured are the front and sides; the front of the unit has an 80mm fan (with ABS logo in the center) and the side has the label and above it there are many small holes punched in the metal. We will come back to their function a little later. The rear also has an 80mm fan installed - along with the power socket and a huge power switch - which functions in a push-pull configuration. Since we got a Topower handpicked sample we still have the Topower sample number on the case and red dots for measuring the fan speed.
Everything about the Cables
The power supply definitely has the largest amount of cables we have seen so far. Not only do we have four 6-pin PEG connectors but we also get two additional 8-pin PEG connectors on separate cable harnesses. That's fewer PEG connections than the Cooler Master, but Tagan compensates in other ways. The PEG connections are accompanied by twelve SATA connectors on three harnesses and seven Molex connectors on three harnesses. We actually ran out of space on our cable graphic and had to make the best out of it. All cables are sleeved and the PEG cable harnesses are even sleeved with an aluminum mesh with rubber hose. In the end of each PEG cable is a ferrite coil to minimize ripple on the rails.
Once we had this very long power supply open we recognized the inside immediately. We have seen this design already one year ago in the first revision of Topower which didn't perform well at all. We can only hope that this one is a much higher revision and that all the problems from a year ago have been solved. Just to be safe, though, we'll keep a fire extinguisher handy during testing....
Forgetting for a moment our previous bad experience, the inside is very packed since we have one component after another and two huge flower-shaped heat sinks in the middle of it. There is nothing easily visible on the PCB and we could hardly make out the manufacturers of the components. The fans are located directly beside the heat sinks. This might look bad for some at first sight but the heat sinks have actually a round opening going horizontal through it so the air is guided easily through the power supply. Note also that the fan which is pulling the out of the PSU is stronger than the one pushing in. This means that there is more air pulled out than pushed in. Now the openings on the sides come into play because the air which is pulled out can also enter through the side openings. In theory, this helps to provide more fresh air to components besides the ones near the intake fan. On the secondary we had no chance to pull any cable beside to have a look at the components behind it. Everything is tight here and can't even be budged a millimeter without risking damage to the PSU internals.
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alilxmas - Sunday, May 10, 2009 - link
At the end the reviewer had no personal preference, kinda left it off in mid sentence there... at least to me.Anyway some people do have to get the latest and do need a i7 CPU, multiple GPU's, slight OC, 6 hard drives, 3 monitors, etc.
Heres some things I do besides gaming,
Encoding videos from about 6-8 hours a day recorded footage sent from people who drop off anything from their safari trip to a wedding converted to dvd, formatted for their DSi or i-touch.
Processing RAW files (about 20mb per pic)
3-D Animation and models
Also for the air problem a slight mod can fix almost anything.
alilxmas - Sunday, May 10, 2009 - link
At the end the reviewer had no personal preference, kinda left it off in mid sentence there... at least to me.Anyway some people do have to get the latest and do need a i7 CPU, multiple GPU's, slight OC, 6 hard drives, 3 monitors, etc.
Heres some things I do besides gaming,
Encoding videos from about 6-8 hours a day recorded footage sent from people who drop off anything from their safari trip to converted to dvd, formatted for their DSi or i-touch.
Processing RAW files
3-D Animation and models
Also for the air problem a slight mod can fix almost anything.
Christoph Katzer - Tuesday, November 6, 2007 - link
Housten: We have Ripple, please confirm we have Ripple... the world makes sense again!TheOtherRizzo - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - link
The efficiency graphs don't start before 20%. 20% is 250W. That's a lot more than an average computer uses on idle. So the tests don't tell me what these "Hi end" PSU's will do to my power bill and heat/noise output.strikeback03 - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - link
The "average computer" also does not need a 1200W+ PSU. Look at Jarred's power usage numbers from the Blackbird test (linked above) - used 370W at idle and 740 at load.Fallen Kell - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - link
The power cord connection on the Cooler Master Real Power Pro is NOT proprietary! That is a standard IEC-320-C19/C20 power connector. It is typically used for high power draw situations, (i.e. like 208V 20amp circuits, not your standard home 110V 15amp). This is actually a good thing for use in this situation. At full load, and the 80% efficiency associated with it, this power supply will need 14amps on your standard 110V outlet. That is not something your standard home wiring and sockets are designed to do. Many will only be rated for 10-12 amps per socket, 15amps for the entire circuit! By using a different connector like this, it will force people to use the appropriate rated wire and sockets, because this beast will draw more power then that basic home wiring can dish out without melting down and becoming a fire hazard.strikeback03 - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - link
Didn't mention if the wall connector is different. However using the different connector at the PSU will make it harder to use an inadequate power cable from wall to PSU. The Infiniti 650W PSUs we used in a few recent builds had larger-than-normal power cords, I would imagine a 1200W PSU needs a cable that is larger yet.JarredWalton - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - link
Ummm... the socket on the back of the PSU is different. The main connector on the other end is still standard, AFAIK.Bozo Galora - Monday, October 22, 2007 - link
heres another review of the same PCP&C PSUhttp://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=458&type=...">http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=458&type=...
here he gives volatges given at both at PSU and at ATX connector with a discussion about it.
No other in depth PSU reviews show the lowering degree of V with load that yours consistently do for some reason.
Christoph Katzer - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - link
Just have a look at the loading diagram, I am testing strictly according to Intel specs and have ~20A on 3.3 and ~24A on 5V. There I see only ~16-17 amps on both. That the voltage regulation works better with less load should be quite clear. Compare the loads and not only voltage.