Pioneer DVR-110D: Dual Layer Double Time!
by Purav Sanghani on September 15, 2005 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Final Words
The DVR-110D released with its 1.08 firmware is not the worst drive that we have seen, but it does not live up to our expectations. The failed write on the MCC 03RG20 and TYG03 media broke our hearts, since they are rated high on the list for quality.
However, we cannot expect too much out of a first release firmware. Pioneer's firmware teams do have to feel out the wrinkles, and after giving some time to iron them out, we should see higher performance. The media to which the DVR-110D was able to write successfully was completely readable, with exception to the low quality AN31 and VDSPMSAB 001, and the PlexTools scans proved this when we saw 0 uncorrectable errors and a low frequency of PI errors.
At the time that these results are published, there may be a newer firmware out for the DVR-110D and in no way should this review be the only deciding factor in your purchasing decision of a DVDR drive.
For now, BenQ's DW1640 and Plextor's PX-740A still perform better than any other unit out there in both speed and quality across all types of media. We cannot yet recommend the DVR-110D because of the handful of failed writes to the higher quality media, but time and future firmware updates will tell if Pioneer can still keep up.
The DVR-110D released with its 1.08 firmware is not the worst drive that we have seen, but it does not live up to our expectations. The failed write on the MCC 03RG20 and TYG03 media broke our hearts, since they are rated high on the list for quality.
However, we cannot expect too much out of a first release firmware. Pioneer's firmware teams do have to feel out the wrinkles, and after giving some time to iron them out, we should see higher performance. The media to which the DVR-110D was able to write successfully was completely readable, with exception to the low quality AN31 and VDSPMSAB 001, and the PlexTools scans proved this when we saw 0 uncorrectable errors and a low frequency of PI errors.
At the time that these results are published, there may be a newer firmware out for the DVR-110D and in no way should this review be the only deciding factor in your purchasing decision of a DVDR drive.
For now, BenQ's DW1640 and Plextor's PX-740A still perform better than any other unit out there in both speed and quality across all types of media. We cannot yet recommend the DVR-110D because of the handful of failed writes to the higher quality media, but time and future firmware updates will tell if Pioneer can still keep up.
Special thanks to Marken Communications for supplying us with Verbatim brand test media.
Special thanks to Antarra Communications for supplying us with Ridata brand test media.
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yanon - Saturday, September 17, 2005 - link
I am glad that I just bought a Benq 1640A. I can't wait to test it on Tuesday.deathwalker - Friday, September 16, 2005 - link
Its sad to see such poor product development work being done a Brand name Mfg. There is no excuse releasing a product for production that does not meet the expectations of not only the buying public but also a product that does not live up to a companies reputation.Bozo Galora - Thursday, September 15, 2005 - link
heres the 1.17http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/content/support/sup...">http://www.pioneer-eur.com/eur/content/support/sup...
since the review was so negative, I think it deserves an addendum with FW 1.17
RyanVM - Thursday, September 15, 2005 - link
When are you guys going to review the PX-716A?imaheadcase - Thursday, September 15, 2005 - link
How come we don't see SATA based CDROM/DVD/DVD burners? Is it lack of standard for those? Expensive? Even if performance was not a reason, sure would look nicer in a case than the old ribbon cables..Just seems like lately i've noticed lots of computer parts seems, well outdated compared to how fast other stuff changes. hehe
Anton74 - Friday, September 16, 2005 - link
Indeed.On the same token, why can I buy 1GB of RAM for less than $100, but most all optical drives seem to have a 2MB buffer, or 8MB at the most for the more expensive models?
Similar story for hard drives, which could potentially benefit even more. Why aren't there models with something like 64MB or even 128MB buffers? I'd be perfectly willing to pay ~$20 more for the increased performance.
/soapbox
xsilver - Saturday, September 17, 2005 - link
most of the memory on hdd's and optical drives is provided via 1 memory chipyour usual ddr/ddr2 uses a 8/16 chip configuration
they also try to use lower latency/higher frequency ram
however, yes I do agree though that devices should come with a 32mb buffer, which is feasable
joex444 - Thursday, September 15, 2005 - link
Indeed, as already commented, the Plextor 712SA and 716SA are both SATA drives, 12x and 16x (which also has some more features over the 712SA). Last I checked, the 716SA ran about $120 or so.I was considering buying one, but realized that it would be incompatible with my SATA chip, which is one reason that you don't see more of these drives -- motherboard compatibility. Apparently the SATA chips were designed for HDs or something stupid like that...
bldckstark - Thursday, September 15, 2005 - link
The SATA reviews are just one Google search away.http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?article...">Plextor's PX-712SA Dual-Format DVD+/- SATA Drive
http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20040709/">MSI's DVD Drive Gets The SATA Connection
It's a big world out there, you should take a look sometime.
KristopherKubicki - Thursday, September 15, 2005 - link
Unfortunately, OSD manufacturers don't have mature unbridged SATA interfaces. Thus, they need to rely on a bridge to support SATA, but the logic goes if you're buying a DVD/CD drive you've probably got an older computer (because new computers come with DVD/CD drives).On the other hand, there is some market for OEM components, as removing the PATA interface for some companies (Dell) saves them a fraction of the production cost -- but unfortunately then the OSD manufacturer ends up eating that cost with the bridge chip.
Plextor did just that for a bunch of people at first, and coincidentally the company is in trouble now. When the margin on these kind of products is so razor thin, *anything* to increase the cost is a huge problem for manufacturers.
So in short - there is no market to support SATA on OSD right now.
Kristopher