CPU Tests: Legacy and Web

In order to gather data to compare with older benchmarks, we are still keeping a number of tests under our ‘legacy’ section. This includes all the former major versions of CineBench (R15, R11.5, R10) as well as x264 HD 3.0 and the first very naïve version of 3DPM v2.1. We won’t be transferring the data over from the old testing into Bench, otherwise it would be populated with 200 CPUs with only one data point, so it will fill up as we test more CPUs like the others.

The other section here is our web tests.

Web Tests: Kraken, Octane, and Speedometer

Benchmarking using web tools is always a bit difficult. Browsers change almost daily, and the way the web is used changes even quicker. While there is some scope for advanced computational based benchmarks, most users care about responsiveness, which requires a strong back-end to work quickly to provide on the front-end. The benchmarks we chose for our web tests are essentially industry standards – at least once upon a time.

It should be noted that for each test, the browser is closed and re-opened a new with a fresh cache. We use a fixed Chromium version for our tests with the update capabilities removed to ensure consistency.

Mozilla Kraken 1.1

Kraken is a 2010 benchmark from Mozilla and does a series of JavaScript tests. These tests are a little more involved than previous tests, looking at artificial intelligence, audio manipulation, image manipulation, json parsing, and cryptographic functions. The benchmark starts with an initial download of data for the audio and imaging, and then runs through 10 times giving a timed result.

We loop through the 10-run test four times (so that’s a total of 40 runs), and average the four end-results. The result is given as time to complete the test, and we’re reaching a slow asymptotic limit with regards the highest IPC processors.

(7-1) Kraken 1.1 Web Test

Google Octane 2.0

Our second test is also JavaScript based, but uses a lot more variation of newer JS techniques, such as object-oriented programming, kernel simulation, object creation/destruction, garbage collection, array manipulations, compiler latency and code execution.

Octane was developed after the discontinuation of other tests, with the goal of being more web-like than previous tests. It has been a popular benchmark, making it an obvious target for optimizations in the JavaScript engines. Ultimately it was retired in early 2017 due to this, although it is still widely used as a tool to determine general CPU performance in a number of web tasks.

(7-2) Google Octane 2.0 Web Test

Speedometer 2: JavaScript Frameworks

Our newest web test is Speedometer 2, which is a test over a series of JavaScript frameworks to do three simple things: built a list, enable each item in the list, and remove the list. All the frameworks implement the same visual cues, but obviously apply them from different coding angles.

Our test goes through the list of frameworks, and produces a final score indicative of ‘rpm’, one of the benchmarks internal metrics.

We repeat over the benchmark for a dozen loops, taking the average of the last five.

(7-3) Speedometer 2.0 Web Test

Legacy Tests

(6-5a) x264 HD 3.0 Pass 1(6-5b) x264 HD 3.0 Pass 2

(6-4a) 3DPM v1 ST(6-4b) 3DPM v1 MT

(6-3a) CineBench R15 ST(6-3b) CineBench R15 MT

CPU Tests: Simulation CPU Tests: Synthetic
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  • Thanny - Thursday, July 15, 2021 - link

    Your Blender results for the 3960X are off by a lot. I rendered the same scene with mine in 173 seconds. That's with PBO enabled, so it'll be a bit faster than stock, but not 20% faster.

    My guess is that you didn't warm Blender up properly first. When starting a render for the first time, it has to do some setup work, which is timed with the rest of the render, but only needs to be done once.

    I'd expect a stock 3960X to be in the neighborhood of 180 seconds.
  • 29a - Thursday, July 15, 2021 - link

    "Firstly, because we need an AI benchmark, and a bad one is still better than not having one at all."

    I 100% disagree with this statement. Bad data is worse than no data at all.
  • arashi - Saturday, July 17, 2021 - link

    But but but what about the few (<10) clicks they'd lose for not having lousy CPU based AI benchmarks!
  • willis936 - Thursday, July 15, 2021 - link

    Availability of entry level ECC CPUs (AMD pro and Intel Xeon E-2200/W) is really low. It's unfortunate. People don't have the cash for $10k systems right now but the need for ECC has only gone up. I hope for more editorials calling for mainstream ECC.
  • Threska - Thursday, July 15, 2021 - link

    Linus is mainstream enough.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/01/linus-torv...
  • Mikewind Dale - Thursday, July 15, 2021 - link

    At least mainstream desktop Ryzens tend to support ECC, even if not officially validated.

    What frustrates me is that laptop Ryzens don't support ECC at all - not even the Ryzen Pros.

    Every Ryzen Pro laptop I've seen lacks ECC support, and some of them even have non-ECC memory soldered to the motherboard.

    If you want an ECC laptop, it appears you have literally no choice at all but a Xeon laptop for $5,000.
  • mode_13h - Friday, July 16, 2021 - link

    > laptop Ryzens don't support ECC at all - not even the Ryzen Pros.

    It probably depends on the laptop. If its motherboard doesn't have the extra traces for the ECC bits, then of course it won't.
  • Mikewind Dale - Saturday, July 17, 2021 - link

    It depends on the laptop, yes. But I haven't found a single Ryzen Pro laptop from a single company that supports ECC.

    AMD's website ("Where to Buy AMD Ryzen™ PRO Powered Laptops") lists HP ProBook, HP EliteBook, and Lenovo Thinkpad. But none of them support ECC.
  • mode_13h - Saturday, July 17, 2021 - link

    > I haven't found a single Ryzen Pro laptop from a single company that supports ECC.

    Thanks for the datapoint. Maybe someone will buck the trend, but it's also possible they judged the laptop users who really care about ECC would also prefer a dGPU and therefore won't be using APUs.
  • mode_13h - Friday, July 16, 2021 - link

    > I hope for more editorials calling for mainstream ECC.

    You'll probably just get inferior in-band ECC.

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