Nokia Lumia 800 & 710, Windows Phones Announced
by Anand Lal Shimpi on October 26, 2011 12:26 AM ESTJust seven months after announcing its intention to move to Windows Phone, Nokia unveiled its first WP based devices: the Lumia 800 and 710.
Both feature the same Qualcomm applications processor: a single-core Snapdragon S2 MSM8255 running at 1.4GHz with 512MB of memory on-package. The 800 has a more expensive chassis and Carl Zeiss optics, while the 710 is cost reduced in those aspects.
The 800 features a 3.7-inch AMOLED (RGBG PenTile) display, 16GB of integrated NAND (no microSD slot) and a 5.365Wh battery. The 800's camera has an 8MP sensor with a Carl Zeiss f/2.2 lens. The camera sensor and lens stack are borrowed from the N9, one of the ways Nokia was able to bring the 800 to market in such a short time after the Microsoft announcement.
I played with the 800 a bit at Nokia World and the feel is easily leaps and bounds beyond any WP devices available today. The 800 will be available in three colors (black, magenta and cyan) while the 710 comes in black and white.
The 710 keeps the screen size the same (3.7-inches) but moves to a standard TFT-LCD. The 710 has the same amount of DRAM as the 800 but it cuts NAND in half to 8GB. Unlike the 800 however the 710 features a microSD card slot that can accommodate up to a 16GB card (24GB total). Battery capacity drops to 4.81Wh. Both models use micro-SIMs.
| Nokia Lumia Windows Phone Lineup | ||||||
| Lumia 800 | Lumia 710 | |||||
| SoC | Qualcomm S2 MSM8255 1.4GHz | Qualcomm S2 MSM8255 1.4GHz | ||||
| Display | 3.7-inch AMOLED PenTile RGBG | 3.7-inch TFT-LCD | ||||
| Camera |
8MP LED flash rear facing camera Carl Zeiss lens |
5MP LED flash rear facing camera | ||||
| Memory | 512MB, 16GB NAND | 512MB, 8GB NAND | ||||
| Dimensions | 116.5 x 61.2 x 12.11 mm, 142g | 119.0 x 62.4 x 12.5 mm, 126g | ||||
| Battery | 5.365Wh | 4.81Wh | ||||
| Network Support |
WCDMA, EDGE Class B, GPRS Class B
WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100 |
WCDMA, EDGE Class B, GPRS Class B
WCDMA 900/1900/2100 |
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| Connectivity | 802.11n b/g/n (2.4 GHz), BT 2.1+EDR, USB 2.0 | 802.11n b/g/n (2.4 GHz), BT 2.1+EDR, USB 2.0 | ||||
Nokia announced its unique software bundle available on all Lumia Windows Phones including Nokia Maps and Nokia Music. The former is Nokia's own voice guided, turn by turn navigation app. Nokia Maps allows you to download and preinstall maps ahead of time to avoid streaming map data if you're roaming in another country. Map data can be downloaded on the fly however if necessary.
Nokia Music is a streaming music service that doesn't require a subscription or even so much as a login. You'll be able to stream live mixes as well as save them for offline listening, although Nokia didn't share much about what specific labels/artists would be available via the service. The service will be available in 38 countries - plans for North America will have to wait until NA phones are announced.
Both Nokia apps will come preloaded on all Nokia Windows Phone devices.
The Lumia 800 will be available in six countries in November (UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy and the Netherlands). Before the end of the year Nokia will add Hong Kong, India, Russia, Singapore and Taiwan to the list. The Lumia 800 will be available for around 420 Euros.
The 710, priced at 270 Euros, will be available in Hong Kong, India, Russia, Singapore and Taiwan by the end of the year.
Nokia will bring a US-specific lineup to market in early 2012 on multiple carriers. The Lumia family will hit mainland China in the first half of 2012. Nokia also mentioned it has plans to release LTE/CDMA Lumia products but it didn't commit to any timeframe. Based on Qualcomm's roadmaps I'd expect to see LTE devices toward the middle/second half of next year.
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matty123 - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
But in all fairness android has no GPU acceleration in the UI (or at least my understanding). This has been rectified with ice cream sandwich so smoothness should increase greatly.That said I am using a iphone at the moment but will consider switching to this if it ever makes it to south africa, otherwise android here I come.
tayb - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
There are no benchmarks. Its just how the OS feels when you use it. Android just feels sluggish. Windows phone is buttery smooth. All there is to it.Sent from my Droid X
CallumS - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
Personally I actually quite like this design. It looks like a great size and looks visually quite appealing.I know a lot of people are getting obsessed with specifications and large high resolution screens however I fail to see the practical advantages for everyday life. For me something that is convenient and easy to use is going to get my vote. I use my phones as tools and I want something that is sturdy and easy to fit within my pocket.
I have computers everywhere that I go and for productivity a notebook is a must due to the keyboard input. I find even the larger phones not quite large enough to simply sit back and enjoy surfing the web. Tablets are much better for this.
Reading on phones I find just not enjoyable and therefore at least a tablet or ebook reader is necessary for a great experience.
I have certainly used my phones for music content, however never been a fan of watching movies/TV on them. Once again much better on a tablet.
I have played the odd game on my phones but not concerned enough to want a huge to carry around for.
No idea how this phone is going to turn out however I have found in the past the Microsoft by far offered the best Exchange Server and Office integration and the interface also looks quite intuitive. Looking forward to checking them out when they hit Australia.
Just out of pure interest; I am wondering what actually features or experiences are driving peoples desire for larger (>4") high definition phones?
Thank you.
Callum
matty123 - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
Well I have been using iphones for about 3 years and my desire for a bigger screen is purely for typing I find the 3.5" on the iphone tiny these days as a lot of my friends are carrying 4.3" androids, after typing on a screen like that it makes the iphone screen feel tiny. I don't really care about the HD resolution have seen androids with WVGA 800*480 and the screen seems sharp enough to me.That said I am a big guy so different strokes for different folks.
A5 - Thursday, October 27, 2011 - link
Typing is definitely much easier on a larger screen. qHD makes web browsing a little better too.The size difference isn't too noticeable unless you have really tiny pockets on your pants (I have big pockets because I'm fat...), and it makes things better.
melgross - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
So, maybe these will sell because they are pretty. It's interesting to see that the supposedly more efficient (it's a myth) AMOLED model has a bigger battery. The extra Flash can't be the main reason.A5 - Thursday, October 27, 2011 - link
AMOLED is more efficient for dark backgrounds (which are really common in WP7) and the screen is thinner than an LCD, allowing for a bigger battery. There are probably other design differences that make the battery compartment larger as well.Pessimism - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
Seeing how everyone here rips on pentile displays and noone likes non expandable memory, why would the 710 be sold as a lesser phone when in my eyes at least it is superior?marc1000 - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
what about the display resolution? is it 480 x 854 pixels? or 480x800?the N9 also has anti-glare polarizer on the display and a NFC antenna, will these phones have these too?
and what about USB on-the-go? N8 could connect to a usb-keyboard and HDMI display, making it a "pc-in-a-pocket" to browse the web. are N800 ans N710 capable of doing usb-OTG and hdmi output?
oldsoccer - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - link
Who like the design, take a look @ this.http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/10/26/nokia-n9...