The last post generated some very interesting comments and questions, which I wanted to address. Unfortunately, some people misinterpreted the post as a "the best scores Nehalem and Shanghai can get in Linpack" review.
 
So let me make this very clear: this and the previous blogpost are not meant to be a "buyer's guide". The Nehalem desktop system and AMD "Shanghai" server are completely different machines, targeted at totally different markets. Normally, we should wait for the Xeon 5500 to run these kind of benchmarks, but consider this a preview out of curiosity.
 
Secondly, we were not trying to get the highest possible LINPACK scores on both architectures. We wanted to use one binary which has good optimizations for both AMD's and Intel CPU's. Fully optimized binaries won't even run on the other CPU. Our only goal is to get an idea how the Nehalem and Shanghai architectures compare when running a "LINPACK" alike binary which is optimized to run on all machines.
 
Thirdly, this is not our review of course. This is a blogpost which talks about some of the tests we are doing for the review.
 
MKL on AMD?
Using the Intel Math Kernel Libraries on an AMD CPU is of course a good way to start some heavy debates. As I pointed out in the last blogpost however, in some cases, the slightly older MKL versions still do a very good job on AMD CPUs when you benchmark with low matrix sizes. You don't have to take my word for it of course.
 
Compare the Intel Linpack 9.0 (available mid 2007) with the binary that AMD produced at the end of 2007. AMD made a K10 only version using the ACML version 4.0.0, and compiling Linpack with the PGI 7.0.7 compiler (with following flags: pgcc -O3 -fast -tp=barcelona-64).
 
All the benchmarks below are done on one CPU with 4 GB (AMD, Intel Xeon) or 3 GB (Intel Core i7). Speedstep, Powernow! and Turbo mode were disabled. 
 
LINPACK version 2007
 
As predicted, the ACML binary which was compiled with 2007 compiler is slower than the MKL "2007" version also compiled in 2007. The MKL version runs on any CPU that has support for (S)SSE-3, so it continues to be a very interesting one for us to test. As you can clearly see from the Xeon 5472 (3 GHz) score, it is not fully optimized for the latest 45 nm Intel CPUs with SSE-4. It is a good "not too optimized" version which can be used on both Intel and AMD CPUs.  You can clearly see this as the 3 GHz Xeon 5472 is behind the AMD Opteron 8384. If this Intel Binary was giving the AMD CPUs a badly optimized code path, this would not be possible.
 
As we move forward to 2008,  we have to create a new binary as both AMD and Intel's fully optimized Linpack versions will not run on the competitor's CPU. Intel released the Linpack benchmark version 10.1, which is not fully optimized for the "Nehalem" architecture, but for 45 nm "Harpertown" family.
 
AMD has created a new Linpack binary using ACML 4.2 and the PGI 7.2-4 compiler.  Below you see how the two CPUs compare.
 
LINPACK version late 2008
 
Bottom line is that these LINPACK benchmarks are moving targets like the SPEC CPU benchmarks, as the compilers and libraries used are just as important as the CPUs.When the Xeon 5500 will materialize, LINPACK performance will probably be higher as the binary is built for the "Penryn/Harpertown" family.
 
While it is useful for the HPC people to see which CPU + compiler can offer the best performance, it is also interesting to understand what kind of performance you get when you compile binaries that have to run on all current CPUs. It is pretty hard to compare CPU architectures if you are using totally different binaries.
 
In the next post we'll delve a bit deeper on what is happening with Hyperthreading, Linpack and the new architectures.
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  • Zorblack1 - Monday, December 1, 2008 - link

    Where are all the hateful people from the last blog entry. Crow tastes good huh? You should at least be man enough to apologize. Reply

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